position of the obama administration and it's the position of the european union and the quartet. it is not the position of hamas and the terrorists. they're dedicated to our destruction. >> ambassador, thank you very much for joininging me. >> pleasure, pierce. >> joining me is the palestinian legislative council, a number of the plo executive committee. welcome to you. >> thank you, pierce. we just heard from ambassador michael oren, very strong words saying this is entirely down to hamas and the grip that hamas now has on the gaza strip. what is your reaction? >> that's not only disingenuous, but it's very misleading and it has very little to do with the truth, but we're used to the israeli officials' spin. actually before hamas took over in 2007 the israelis continually used gaza as a firing range, shooting at will, killing, destroying. in 2008 and 2009 they killed 1,440 palestinians and mainly civilians.